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Form 8962, APTC, PTC and 0% Household Income

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November 2, 2022
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Taxpayer has a negative MAGI because of an NOL carryforward. His Household Income as a Percentage of Federal Poverty Line on Line 5 of Form 8962 is 0%. Even without the NOL, his Line 5 is still below 100% because his only income in 2021 was $10K of capital gains.

Taxpayer's For, 1095-A reports APTC payments for 2021 of $2,080. ProSeries is calculating/allowing the APTC and an additional $1,380 of Net PTC on the Form 8962 even though the program is calculating a negative MAGI and a 0% on Line 5.

Our old software (TaxWise) had a Y/N check box on Form 8962 to indicate “If the percentage on Line 5 is less than 100%, did the taxpayer meet the requirements under “Estimated household income at least 100% of the Federal poverty line” in the 8962 instructions?”

I do not see a similar check box in Proseries. Is there anywhere in the program to indicate that the taxpayer did not meet the requirements for APTC and PTC?

This taxpayer does not seem to meet the Estimated household income requirements in the 8962 Instructions because that the taxpayer’s “insurance agent” did not provide accurate information about the taxpayer’s MAGI to the Marketplace when they signed the taxpayer up.

I don't really want to override this Form, but not quite sure how else to proceed...

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TaxGuyBill

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@Mactaxes wrote:

This taxpayer does not seem to meet the Estimated household income requirements in the 8962 Instructions because that the taxpayer’s “insurance agent” did not provide accurate information about the taxpayer’s MAGI to the Marketplace when they signed the taxpayer up.

To me, it seems like they qualify. The actual wording is "An Exchange estimates at the time of enrollment that the taxpayer's household income will be at least 100 percent but not more than 400 percent of the Federal poverty line for the taxable year".

The fact that the Marketplace gave Advance credit shows the Marketplace estimated their income between 100% and 400%.

Whether or not the taxpayer and/or insurance agent filed a fraudulent application with the Marketplace (with a penalty of up to $250,000) is a different question.

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MactaxesAuthor

Level 3

Thank you TaxGuyBill.

Agreed that it does seem like the taxpayer qualifies, but he's had a large NOL for several years and does not work, so we just aren't seeing how in the world the Marketplace could have estimated his income at between 100% and 400% of poverty line

Insurance Agent was the one to input his information into the Marketplace application, but she had copies of his 2019 & 2020 1040's showing the negative AGI and he is not currently employed.

We explained to our client that the Agent could not have provided accurate information on his Marketplace application (whether or not it was an honest mistake, fraud or ignorance remains to be seen) and he does not want to "take any chances" and wants to pay back the APTC and does not want to claim the additional PTC.

But Proseries doesn't seem to allow a taxpayer to not claim PTC in this situation...is that correct? Is there any other way to correct this issue? Our old software had a Y/N checkbox if the taxpayer fell below 100% and did not qualify, but I don't see anything like this in Proseries...

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TaxGuyBill

Level 15

The Tax Code doesn't really have a provision for "I don't want to do it".

If you think the taxpayer does not qualify, then the SLCSP is zero.

That will disqualify the credit. However, the repayment limitation still applies.

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