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Level 2
February 8, 2021
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Electronic signatures

  • February 8, 2021
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How do you send the signature forms to your client?
I found it very time consuming to explain my clients how to sign their forms.
Tax Circle integrates with DocuSign® so you can send documents to your clients for signature directly from TaxCycle, track the receipt of those signatures, store those documents in DocuSign® (as long as you maintain a subscription) and download them from within TaxCycle.
Profile USA has a similar feature.
Is there any way we can have in in Canada?

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Level 5
February 9, 2021

DocuSign tends to be very expensive.  Many users in the TaxCycle forum who processed 800 or more returns in 2020 received a letter from DocuSign with an additional invoice that they went above the quota.  The state that DocuSign costs approx. $8.00 per signature, and that for this tax season, DocuSign might suspend a users privileges if it exceeds the number of signing packages they signed up for.  TaxCycle is creating their own document signing tool called TaxFolder, charging $500 for unlimited packages, but will also continue to support DocuSign.  I agree, that Profile is behind in not supporting integration with an e-signature solution.

 

Last year, most of my clients signed in person, so I didn't worry about using e-signatures.  Some clients also printed the T183, signed them, re-scanned them, and sent them back to me. I also had a few clients that used the free signing tool embedded in Adobe Acrobat to sign their documents.

 

For this tax season, I have purchased a license for Adobe Acrobat Pro DC, which comes with Adobe Sign.  It works reasonably well, however, it doesn't support creating field templates (only document templates - the more expensive Business and Enterprise additions allow for field templates).  This means that you can't create a template for the T183 (a form that changes for each client).  You have to manually insert the signature field (and perhaps the date field if you chose to leave it blank when you print the T183's) for each T183 you send for a signature (or Authorize Rep form). 

 

The other thing I've noticed is that although Adobe Sign sends an email to the client with a secure link to access the files on Adobe's secure network, once the document is signed, it sends a copy of the signed document to the client as an attachment, thus giving access to the file by a someone hacking into the client's email account. Again, only the more expensive Business & Enterprise versions allow the user to disable the attachments.  Plus, a hacker can also click on the Adobe email link and access the file from Adobe's secure site.  Thus, when setting up the signature fields in Adobe Sign, it is important to follow the menus and apply a password to the file, thus adding a degree of security to prevent unauthorized access.

I hope this is helpful.

Level 2
February 10, 2021

For the last 5 years I'm doing over 1,200 returns per tax season. I'm alone and sending emails and than explaining to the clients how to do it is ... painful and time consuming.
Sending emails with instructions how to sign is again time consuming and not even 50% effective.
Hub is not the best client management tool either
Intuit is running behind competition by many miles.
  

Level 2
February 10, 2021

I don't bother telling clients about the electronic signature, it would be a waste of my and their time. I just ask them to print the form, sign, scan and email back to me in the pdf format.

I have a free version of Acrobat Adobe Reader DC. I've created my own digital signature that I can affix to documents-I've done it a couple of times and it works perfectly. 

Level 8
February 26, 2021

Hi, thank you for using Intuit ProFile Community

FinancierCanada is correct. For 2020 T183 there are two options for the T183:

1) Answer e-signature No: ProFile populates the date, this is similar to the method in the past when clients sign in the office

2) Answer e-signature Yes: The taxpayer is required to sign and enter the date and time of signing on the signed T183. The preparer then enters the date and time from the signed copy T183 into ProFile.

Hope this helps

Level 5
March 10, 2021

I noticed the new email this morning from Profile announcing the integration of Docusign:

 

"We’re excited to introduce our latest feature update to ProFile. With eSignature, powered by DocuSign®, you can now manage client signatures digitally, on any form or document, and track their progress remotely, with real-time status updates right from your software dashboard.
How eSignature works
eSignature is available on any forms across T1, T2, T3, and FX modules"

 

I haven't seen any new updates from CRA that they are accepting e-signatures on any other forms other than the T183's, the AuthReps, and the T2200(s)  ?   If not, then we need to use caution in using Docusign to acquire signatures on any other forms.

Level 8
March 10, 2021

Hi, thank you for using Intuit ProFile Community

DocuSign integration is available in ProFile 2020.3.5 now available. We have a Community article with details available here.

Hope this helps