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May 29, 2024
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Refund of calculated penalty

  • May 29, 2024
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I have had 2 clients who received letters from the IRS along with refund checks for the amount of their penalty which was system calculated.  The letter states the refund is due to "miscalculated" tax penalty.  Is there an issue with the calculations through the system?

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Best answer by taxiowa

What is happening is the client paid before the due date.  You listed the due date as the date the client will be paying.  Thus the IRS realized the client paid one month earlier than the date you listed.  Hence the refund of miscalculated tax penalty.  Always ask client when they will be paying if subject to penalty and enter on form.  If you go back and change on your computer to date paid you will find the difference.

Intuit always defaults to due date as date paid on form 2210.  You have to change to actual date paid!

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Jim-from-Ohio
Intuit Community Champion
May 29, 2024

were they in California or another area with natural disasters?  IRS waived some penalties for certain states, most notably California

clarkd01Author
Level 3
May 29, 2024

Nope, Michigan.

BobKamman
Level 15
May 31, 2024

Well, I'll never get credit now for the best answer, but there's this:

State Tax Relief for Tax Year 2023

In late August 2023 severe storms, tornadoes, and flooding impacted nine Michigan counties. On February 15, 2024, the Internal  Revenue Service (IRS) announced tax relief for individuals and businesses related to this event. Treasury is following the actions of the federal government by providing state tax relief through extensions, which result in penalty and interest waivers.

https://www.michigan.gov/taxes/2023-federal-disaster-area-relief 

PATAX
Level 12
May 29, 2024

I think similar questions have been asked. Do a search on this forum.

clarkd01Author
Level 3
May 29, 2024

The older string I found was back in 2019 which states to check the box for the IRS to calculate the penalty if it is under $100.  Both clients penalty was well over $100 level.  This does not answer why the system is calculating the penalty incorrectly though.

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
May 29, 2024

what tax year are they for?

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clarkd01Author
Level 3
May 29, 2024

both cases are for 2023

IRonMaN
Level 15
May 29, 2024

The search function sucks, but there have been a number of posts over the last couple of months with clients that are pleasantly surprised by receiving unexpected refunds for calculated penalties.

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taxiowa
taxiowaAnswer
Level 8
May 30, 2024

What is happening is the client paid before the due date.  You listed the due date as the date the client will be paying.  Thus the IRS realized the client paid one month earlier than the date you listed.  Hence the refund of miscalculated tax penalty.  Always ask client when they will be paying if subject to penalty and enter on form.  If you go back and change on your computer to date paid you will find the difference.

Intuit always defaults to due date as date paid on form 2210.  You have to change to actual date paid!

Intuit Community Champion
May 30, 2024

shit, im sorry. I didnt know by me clicking best answer would show as accepted. That was NOT my intention. I just liked this answer.

IRonMaN
Level 15
May 30, 2024

Apology accepted 😕😕😕😕😕😕

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