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Level 7
January 19, 2024
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Entrance fee to nursing home deduction limit in 2023?

  • January 19, 2024
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Entrance fee is $400K. How much of that is deductible in 2023? In 2024?

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abctax55
Level 15
January 19, 2024

How much of that is for medical care?

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PATAX
Level 12
January 19, 2024

Wow that is a lot of money. I don't recall that happening around here so that may be a Virginia thing. Up here people just pay each month, which can be anywhere from a few thousand to maybe 15,000 or so a month. But $400,000. Does that cover everything for as long as the person's in the nursing home?

GretaAuthor
Level 7
January 19, 2024

And the client got a discount! Usually the entrance fee is 1/2 mil per person. Kendal. It's a huge complex and growing. So many (wealthy) seniors live in this town. Nearly all university professors end up at Kendal. Good company, communal dining, events. The fee assures that folks can stay there in stages, as their needs increase. On top of entry fee, the monthly charges are about 4K/mo. The fee is deductible up to a limit, which some years ago was 100K. I couldn't find the current limit on the IRS site.

PATAX
Level 12
January 19, 2024

What happens if they pass away shortly after paying that $400,000 and entering that nursing home? Does their family get back some of that $400,000?

BobKamman
Level 15
January 19, 2024

I see those occasionally - it's usually for an "assisted living" arrangement where the resident is somewhat independent, but nursing care is available if needed.  The resident pays monthly "rent" also.  The facility gives the resident a lengthy memo saying what percentage (to four decimal points) of its  expenses are for medically-related costs, and then cites two methods of using that number based on some Tax Court or IRS rulings.  Ask the facility about what to expect as documentation, and when to expect it.  ($400K is probably for a couple?)  

IRonMaN
Level 15
January 19, 2024

$400K????????  Is that for the nursing home penthouse? 😱

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sjrcpa
Level 15
January 19, 2024

The monthly rent is reduced if you pay a lump sum upfront.

Sometimes some of the lump is refundable if you die before a certain number of years.

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