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Vacation Home depreciation limitation

  • December 7, 2019
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I have a second "home" that I rented for 83 days and used personally for 12 days. The depreciation is not being limited to the business use, but is allowing all the depreciation on Schedule E. When I did a search in ProConnect it said if the number of days of personal use is less than 14 days, or 10% or less of the Number of days rented, depreciation will be allowed in full. This is not my understanding and not consistent with other tax software I have used, which limits depreciation to the business use percentage. Any thoughts?

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Best answer by itonewbie

You're right that §208A(e)(1) mandates that only expenses attributable to rental at fair market value may be deductible where "the taxpayer...uses a dwelling unit for personal purposes on any day during the taxable year (whether or not he is treated under this section as using such unit as a residence)".  In other words, depreciation allowance must still be allocated between rental and personal use even though the taxpayer used the property for less than the thresholds defined under subsection (d)(1) and the deductions would not be subject to the subsection limitation under subsection (c)(5).

PTO does optimize the allocation of mortgage interest and real estate taxes between Sch A and Sch E so long as the number of days owned is entered.  However, I do see two technical problems in PTO's computation when the taxpayer did not use the property for more than the greater of 14 days or 10% of the days rented at FMV (i.e. when the property does not qualify as a residence/vacation home) -

  1. Mortgage Interest: PTO allocates mortgage interest to Sch A even though the property does not qualify as a residence and the interest paid would not constitute deductible qualified residence interest as defined under §163(h)(4)(A);
  2. Depreciation: PTO does not prorate for rental use but allows full depreciation allowance.  As explained above, there is no technical basis for taking this position.

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Level 15
December 7, 2019
You are right, it is limited to business use.  I suspect that message in the software is trying to say it is not subject to the 'vacation home' limitations.

As for how to get it to use the business percentage, I can't help you there (I use ProSeries, not PTO).  It is possible that you need to manually enter the business percentage on the asset.
itonewbie
itonewbieAnswer
Level 15
December 7, 2019

You're right that §208A(e)(1) mandates that only expenses attributable to rental at fair market value may be deductible where "the taxpayer...uses a dwelling unit for personal purposes on any day during the taxable year (whether or not he is treated under this section as using such unit as a residence)".  In other words, depreciation allowance must still be allocated between rental and personal use even though the taxpayer used the property for less than the thresholds defined under subsection (d)(1) and the deductions would not be subject to the subsection limitation under subsection (c)(5).

PTO does optimize the allocation of mortgage interest and real estate taxes between Sch A and Sch E so long as the number of days owned is entered.  However, I do see two technical problems in PTO's computation when the taxpayer did not use the property for more than the greater of 14 days or 10% of the days rented at FMV (i.e. when the property does not qualify as a residence/vacation home) -

  1. Mortgage Interest: PTO allocates mortgage interest to Sch A even though the property does not qualify as a residence and the interest paid would not constitute deductible qualified residence interest as defined under §163(h)(4)(A);
  2. Depreciation: PTO does not prorate for rental use but allows full depreciation allowance.  As explained above, there is no technical basis for taking this position.
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itonewbie
Level 15
December 7, 2019
@Intuit Austin @Kathi_at_Intuit Hi, Austin and Kathi, could you please take a look at this as it doesn't seem right?  Thanks!
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