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June 28, 2026
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Is gross income from annuities (Box 1) included on Sch B line 8 Form 1041?

  • June 28, 2026
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I am working on my first 1041 Form.  It looks like the software includes gross income from annuities (Box 1 of 1099R) on Sch B, line 8.  It is a complex trust. What exactly included on line 8?  

 

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    IRonMaN
    Level 15
    June 28, 2026

    Line 8 includes any income that doesn’t fit the other categories - annuity income is one of those other categories.

    Slava Ukraini!
    laval650Author
    Level 4
    June 28, 2026

    Thank you. Just to make sure - non taxable income is included on line 8 Sch B Form 1041.

    IRonMaN
    Level 15
    June 28, 2026

    Only the taxable portion would be reported on line 8

    Slava Ukraini!
    IRonMaN
    Level 15
    June 28, 2026

    Oops, I missed the schedule B part of your post, I thought you were talking about 1041 line 8.  The form says line 8 is determined by the governing instrument.  You don’t say what else you have on the return to know if putting anything on that line is really going to change anything for tax purposes.

    Slava Ukraini!
    Level 3
    June 29, 2026

    That is trust accounting income as set forth in the trust’s governing instrument which is USUALLY ALL income the trust is entitled to (again per the terms of the trust).

    sjrcpa
    Level 15
    June 29, 2026

    Sometimes annuities are part income and part principal.

    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    Level 3
    June 29, 2026

    Correct, and one needs to look to the trust instrument and state law (the UPIA, for example) to make that determination. Principal, of course, is virtually always excluded from taxable income.

    sjrcpa
    Level 15
    June 29, 2026

    “Principal, of course, is virtually always excluded from taxable income.”

    What about capital gains?

    The more I know the more I don’t know.
    Level 3
    June 29, 2026

    Trust principal (corpus of the trust). Clearly, gain is potentially taxable.

    BobKamman
    Level 15
    June 29, 2026

    Only the taxable part of the annuity distribution (Box 2a, Form 1099-R) is reported on Line 8 of Form 1041.  That should then be the same number included on Line 8 of Schedule B.  The nontaxable part of the annuity distribution, which is return of principal for purchased annuities, is also trust principal.  

    laval650Author
    Level 4
    June 30, 2026

    This is the final year for the trust, everything is distributed, including capital gains.

    Annuities are partially taxable, but the whole gross is reflected on line 8 Sch B.

    BobKamman
    Level 15
    June 30, 2026

    What did you enter on Line 8, Page 1?  It should only be the taxable part of the annuity.  Then that amount would also appear on Line 8, Schedule B.

    laval650Author
    Level 4
    June 30, 2026

    The line 8 on page 1 shows only the taxable portion of annuities (Box 2a Form 1099R). The line 8 of Sch B shows gross amount (Box 1 Form 1099R).  This is the final 1041.