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Drphibes
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June 26, 2020
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IRS not cashing checks for owed amounts

  • June 26, 2020
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I have now had 4 Trust returns with tax due where the checks were written and sent in months ago and have not been cashed.  Have recommended cancelling and sending in new checks 2 of them over 6 weeks ago but those have yet to be cashed.  Anyone else seeing this?

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Best answer by abctax55

The IRS has been stockpiling mail, as they've also been under COVID-19 restrictions & no one's been there to open the envelopes.

*I* would be worried about stopping payment, then the IRS does (eventually...) try to cash the checks and payment is declined.  IF it gets to six months & a stale dated issue.... Oy, the paperwork that'll be flying.

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abctax55
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Level 15
June 26, 2020

The IRS has been stockpiling mail, as they've also been under COVID-19 restrictions & no one's been there to open the envelopes.

*I* would be worried about stopping payment, then the IRS does (eventually...) try to cash the checks and payment is declined.  IF it gets to six months & a stale dated issue.... Oy, the paperwork that'll be flying.

HumanKind... Be Both
Level 2
April 11, 2022

I have a case that we’ve been attempting to resolve for 2 years. An amended return was filed a month after the original return, which resulted in an additional payment. IRS has been sending CP2000’s to client, having never processed her 1040X. Today client received a notice that a check sent with the 1040X in June of 2020 was deposited in March 2022 and the bank refused to accept a 2 yr old check. IRS is penalizing client $549 because bank refused the check. ……and so it goes.

qbteachmt
Level 15
April 11, 2022
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Level 3
June 26, 2020

Yes, I have the same problem with one trust, and my partner in the firm has a similar case. You are not alone. This seems to be an issue only with the IRS service center that processes trust tax returns.

And to add insult to injury in my case, the client just received a notice from the IRS, saying that they hadn't paid the amount due with the trust return when filed! I advised my client to simply wait - Hopefully the IRS employees will find these tax payment checks when they get back to work in their offices.

Level 2
August 16, 2020

Does anyone have an update on this? I submitted payment for trust return back in early June, check still not cashed and now just received notice from irs that payment not received and they are tacking on penalty and interest. I contacted irs a few weeks ago that check hadn’t been cashed and the rep advised I wait until September. 

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
August 16, 2020
I have a few similar situations, I think were stuck just waiting until theyve had a chance to process all the unopened mail.
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Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
June 26, 2020

Ive got a client with a CP2000 response that was sent in with a check back in March, still hasnt cleared either...havent gotten anymore notices though.

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BobKamman
Level 15
June 26, 2020

Probably Kansas City Service Center, which I don't think has reopened.  Ogden opened partially a few weeks ago, and is making progress on 1040 returns -- so probably 1041s, also.   I would not have stopped payment on checks.  It's not that difficult to keep up with the news on what is happening at IRS, at the federal government, and around the country and world.  As mentioned, now IRS is going to cash both checks, charge a penalty for the rejected one, and take time away from helping the rest of us to sort out the mess.  

Drphibes
DrphibesAuthor
Level 6
June 26, 2020

Actually it is the Ogden facility which I just saw is just partially opening up.  In today's mail I just got notices disallowing my clients daughter as a dependent (she is 16 and absolutely a dependent) dated April 6th with a due date of payment April 27th or respond by that date. The notices are from Austin TX.

sjrcpa
Level 15
June 26, 2020

Were there inserts with that letter saying the dates are messed up b/c the mail sat for months?

The more I know the more I don’t know.
Level 2
August 9, 2020

Inspector General's report at https://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2020reports/202046041fr.pdf

says on page 13:  "As of May 20, 2020, the IRS estimates that it has received 10.4 million pieces of mail while the Tax Processing Centers were closed. This includes mail stored within its various Tax Processing Centers and in 20 semi-trailers and six storage containers housed outside these Centers.  The unopened mail includes tax returns, taxpayer correspondence, payments, and mail returned as undeliverable. Each Tax Processing Center has a mail operation that opens, sorts, counts, and routes all incoming mail and packages to their appropriate destinations. These actions were all halted when the Tax Processing Centers were closed. Furthermore, all paper tax return processing was halted. "

Level 2
August 12, 2020

There's a bit more information here, but not much.   https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-operations-during-covid-19-mission-critical-functions-continue

 

Seems like the IRS called back the people that handle printing, but there is still a lot of mail to go through per the inspector's report in the last posting.  I've seen a late payment notice received this week via post office mail regarding for a check that was sent in early July, so I'm not about to recommend a stop payment.  Maybe just prior to the due date they make payment again electronically and then sort it out later.

 

Level 2
October 14, 2020

Thought I would jump back into this thread and let all of you, and the search engines, know that the IRS cashed my check today, for an estate/trust sent to the Ogden, Utah service Center.  The IRS did not cash my check for 90 days.    Covid delays, I guess.   I also signed the trust up for electronic payment to avoid this in the future.

Level 2
August 12, 2020

Yes , I have same problem , with 1041  Trust payment going to Kansas City , MO.

qbteachmt
Level 15
August 14, 2020

This is why you should sign up for the e-newsletters. This came today:

Pending check payments and payment notices


If your client mailed a check with or without a tax return, it may still be unopened in the backlog of mail the IRS is processing due to COVID-19. Any payments will be posted as the date IRS received them rather than the date the agency processed them. To avoid penalties and interest, taxpayers should not cancel their checks and should ensure funds continue to be available so the IRS can process them. To provide fair and equitable treatment, the IRS is providing relief from bad check penalties for dishonored checks the agency received between March 1 and July 15 due to delays in IRS processing. However, interest and penalties may still apply.

Due to high call volumes, the IRS suggests waiting to contact the agency about any unprocessed paper payments still pending. See www.irs.gov/payments for options to make payments other than by mail.

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Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
August 14, 2020

I hadnt read this yet, but I told my client that just got the notice of non payment for a check she sent back in July, she had tracking that shows it was received, to just hold tight, dont do anything, just wait it out!

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Level 2
August 17, 2020

We have the same issue...this is what I just found:

From IRS website: https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-operations-during-covid-19-mission-critical-functions-continue

Pending Check Payments and Payment Notices: If a taxpayer mailed a check (either with or without a tax return), it may still be unopened in the backlog of mail the IRS is processing due to COVID-19. Any payments will be posted as the date we received them rather than the date the agency processed them. To avoid penalties and interest, taxpayers should not cancel their checks and should ensure funds continue to be available so the IRS can process them.

To provide fair and equitable treatment, the IRS is providing relief from bad check penalties for dishonored checks the agency received between March 1 and July 15 due to delays in this IRS processing. However, interest and penalties may still apply.

Due to high call volumes, the IRS suggests waiting to contact the agency about any unprocessed paper payments still pending. See www.irs.gov/payments for options to make payments other than by mail.

abctax55
Level 15
August 17, 2020

@DCC567 

Which is exactly what @qbteachmt posted earlier in this thread (on Friday).

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qbteachmt
Level 15
August 17, 2020

That text came last week as part of this:

e-News for Tax Professionals Issue 2020-33

And today as part of this:

e-News for Small Business Issue 2020-14

And I bet they will keep sending it out with other e-newsletters.

That's why I keep recommending you should sign up for them  🙂

 

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Level 2
September 3, 2020

Thanks to all of the posters on this.  I have 4 trust checks with different fillings sent to Kansas City service center on 7/15, none have been cashed yet.

Level 3
September 6, 2020

I'm in the same situation.  Check mailed on 7/15/20...still not cashed.  Check was for a trust payment to Kansas City.

Some banks won't honor checks after 90 days if not cashed...though most bank allow for 180 days...anyone concerned about that??

qbteachmt
Level 15
September 7, 2020

I'd consider the 180 limit more likely than the 90; and the IRS as payee likely means the clearinghouses will submit them and the banks will pay, anyway, after the 180 limit.

If you really are concerned, then cancel the checks and make the payment through one of the electronic/online portal methods. Just don't keep issuing more paper checks; that's not going to speed up anything.

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Level 2
September 16, 2020

I sent in a payment via USPS Priority mail with a signature verification upon receipt required for 2019 taxes owed on a trust.  They sent me a notice saying they did not receive payment...they lost the check.  I tried calling and was on hold for 2 hours and then the call was dropped.  I stopped payment on the first check and sent a new check which was signed as received be them on August 24th 2020...it's September 16th and the check has not been cashed.  I also had to send in paperwork and proof that I sent the first payment in.  All I have is proof that I sent something and they signed for it...there's no way to prove I actually put a check in the envelope.  The IRS is trying to access a penalty for late payment so time will tell if they accept my proof and waive that penalty.  I sure would feel better if they cashed the second check!

Level 3
September 16, 2020

It seems like so many of us are in the same situation as you....at least you have a signature receipt...I don't even have that...I wouldn't worry too much....tho I probably wouldn't have canceled that first check....has anyone else out there had a overdue trust check cashed recently??

Level 2
December 6, 2020

Hi!  Yes - my client is in the same situation.  She made payment on a trust for 2019 back in July.  In September she received a notice that the tax had not been paid and was issued another bill including interest and penalties.  Believing she had overlooked the initial payment, she mailed a replacement check.  Ultimately, the initial check was cashed by the IRS in early October and the replacement was cashed by IRS in mid-November.  So now both checks have been cashed by the IRS and my client is out the second amount at this point.

Does anyone have any ideas / suggestions on where to go from here to get the second payment refunded?

Many thanks!

Level 3
April 2, 2022

On a personal level, I had forgotten to make a final payment for my 2020 return. I received a notice in August 2021 and immediately paid online. I, and my husband, have since been barraged with collection notices. Even after sending a timely response in October, we then received a notice to garnish our SS for payment (2 copies to each of us!).i've tried calling too many times to count and decided to sit still.  Fast forward to March 2022 the notices stopped and we finally got a letter saying ..... we're looking at this give us another 60 days.  Word is they are seriously understaffed so just hang tight and let them catch up with what they have rather than sending a barrage of more information or hounding Taxpayer Advocate offices which is also understaffed.  I say this as a former Revenue Agent, myself.