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April 26, 2021
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If the father who sets up a living revocable trust dies, the trust owns an annuity with an adult child as the annuitant. Are there any tax implications? Pay outs?

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sjrcpa
Level 15
April 26, 2021

There could be a bunch. For starters, what does the trust agreement say?

And are you sure the annuity is really owned by the trust?

The more I know the more I don’t know.
1265LSSAuthor
Level 2
April 26, 2021

The father's employer paid the annuity proceeds to the trust as a rollover (1099R Code  6).  The Trust document does not address the annuity.  It states the balance of all income and principal, after expenses, debts, special gifts are paid, should be distributed to his wife, if living.

Thank you.

sjrcpa
Level 15
April 26, 2021

Is the wife living? If not, what does it say about when wife is not living? You haven't laid out how the adult child is entitled to anything.

"The father's employer paid the annuity proceeds to the trust as a rollover (1099R Code  6)" So it was cashed and put into the trust. Again, how is the adult child an annuitant if there is no longer an annuity?

The more I know the more I don’t know.
BobKamman
Level 15
April 26, 2021

"Annuitant" is not owner or beneficiary.  Sometimes a younger person is named because older ones don't qualify.  Theoretically, it has been explained to me, someone can be pulled in off the street to serve as annuitant.  

How did the employer get involved?  Is this really a 401(k) ?  Was the deceased an owner of the company and this was some plan like split-dollar insurance that I avoid learning about?

1265LSSAuthor
Level 2
April 26, 2021

Thank you so much for your response. My apology.  The 1099R (Code 6) was from the Ohio Insurance Company. The funds were paid to the Trust.   In my 36 years of practicing, I have never encountered a situation like this one. I have read the Trust document, but I have not had access to the Annuity Contract. The financial planner sent me an e-mail stating that the annuity contract was owned by the Trust of the purchaser of the contract,(the deceased) not the individual, and the contract was based on the life expectancy of the adult son, the annuitant. The Trust is also the beneficiary of the contract. The financial planner stated that this is the first annuity contract he has encountered in his 20 yrs of practice set up this way.

sjrcpa
Level 15
April 27, 2021

It seems to me the first tax issue is the amount of taxable income the trust has upon cashing in the annuity. That should be obtainable from Ohio Insurance Company. If this is for 2020, there should be a 1099-R for this.

Distributions from the trust and the attendant tax consequences flow in accordance with the trust agreement, which you have said directs all income to the wife.

The more I know the more I don’t know.
1265LSSAuthor
Level 2
April 27, 2021

There has been no distributions.  All the income is deferred and there are no plans to make any distributions in the near future.