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Level 2
October 18, 2022
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How to report a backdoor conversion from a 401K to a ROTH IRA

  • October 18, 2022
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My client received a 1099R from her investment company showing a $100K rollover to a traditional IRA and a $20K taxable distribution to her ROTH IRA.  Should this ROTH conversion be reported on Form 8606?  The only way I could get the $20K to show up on the 8606 was to check the IRA/SEP/SIMPLE box.  Given that these funds came from a 401K, is this the correct way to enter this transaction in Lacerte?

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George4Tacks
Level 15
October 19, 2022

"Her investment company" is referring to the company her 401K is held in?

When and how much was the nondeductible IRA contribution made? 

$20K taxable distribution from what type of account? Your statement says it was from a 401k. Was it a Roth 401k?

Have you shown the IRA basis in Screen 24?

You can look at this search for some help https://proconnect.intuit.com/support/en-us/help-search?filter=Lacerte+Tax&filter=Lacerte+Tax+Planner&advanced=false&allow_punctuation=false&filter=location&location=category%3A302&q=backdoor&uid=l9gagtqz

 

NOTE: Maybe @1569 can get the 1st item listed either recovered or removed from this search. Broken links are still lingering how many years after the conversion?

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SeA3106Author
Level 2
October 20, 2022

"Her investment company" is referring to the company her 401K is held in? Yes!

Yes, I've shown the IRA basis in Screen 24

There were two transactions during 2021.

1. She rolled over $100k from her 401K to a Rollover IRA with an investment firm. She is retired and completed this transaction in Aug 2021

2. She did a $20K rollover from her qualified retirement plan (401K) to ROTH IRA. She had her investment company transfer $20K from her 401K to her ROTH IRA and she will pay taxes on the $20K. This transaction was completed in Dec 2021. Trying to report this transaction correctly on the tax return.  

I've contacted Lacerte help desk and I keep getting conflicting information and thought I would post here to get the correct answer. 

 

 

qbteachmt
Level 15
October 20, 2022

"Backdoor" would be 401(k) to Trad IRA, then Trad converted to Roth. Your taxpayer had a retirement plan account, not an IRA, to Roth conversion. Are you sure that amount wasn't already his/her basis? If so, it's not taxable. You mention reporting basis, which is not usual within the 401(k) but if so, it already qualifies for Roth not as conversion. 

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