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1040 Electronic Payment Not Approved

  • February 19, 2020
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I submitted a request for electronic payment of a taxpayers 2019 liability and post dated it to March 2, 2020.  I received the e-file acknowledgement and it states the "IRS did not approve your electronic payment of the balance due.  Be sure to pay the tax due by check or credit card"

Does anyone know why they wouldn't have accepted an electronic payment? 

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Best answer by Ursula23

Support told me they checked in their e-file system and saw no rejection or message from the IRS on the client I called about. They said all bank info was sent to the IRS. The message makes no sense as the IRS would not attempt to withdraw tax until the scheduled date. Hopefully they will fix it soon.

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Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
February 19, 2020

We saw this happen last year in ProSeries, but the electronic payment DID end up being made...so I would call the Electronic Withdrawal phone number and inquire as to whether its actually scheduled or not to be sure.

Cancellations, Errors and Questions:

  • In the event Treasury causes an incorrect amount of funds to be withdrawn from a bank account, Treasury will return any improperly transferred funds.
  • Once your return is accepted, information pertaining to your payment, such as account information, payment date, or amount, cannot be changed. If changes are needed, the only option is to cancel the payment and choose another payment method.
  • Call IRS e-file Payment Services 24/7 at 1-888-353-4537 to inquire about or cancel your payment, but please wait 7 to 10 days after your return was accepted before calling.
  • Cancellation requests must be received no later than 11:59 p.m. ET two business days prior to the scheduled payment date.
  • If a payment is returned by your financial institution (e.g., due to insufficient funds, incorrect account information, closed account, etc.) the IRS will mail a Letter 4870 to the address we have on file for you, explaining why the payment could not be processed, and providing alternate payment options.
  • In the event your financial institution is unable to process your payment request, you will be responsible for making other payment arrangements, and for any penalties and interest incurred.
  • Contact your financial institution immediately if there is an error in the amount withdrawn.
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TaxMom12Author
Level 4
February 19, 2020

Thank you for the reply, Lisa! I will phone to confirm but that's encouraging.  

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
February 19, 2020

I think it asks for the bank account number when you call (its automated) so have that in front of you as well as the dollar amount.

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Level 4
February 19, 2020

Just had my second return that happened this way. Concerned that all of the returns will be this way. Anyone know what the problem is? 

 

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
February 19, 2020

We saw it happen last year for ProSeries, not sure it was ever acknowledged or addressed by Intuit...or if they had any part in it to be honest.  Never saw an explanation anywhere either.

I never schedule a payment after April 10th...just in case something doesn't happen, we still have time to mail a check.

I verified multiple ones over the phone when it started happening, they were all scheduled...didnt seem to have any that were actually not approved.

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Level 4
February 19, 2020

that can be a problem. This was schedule for February 28. In both case they were scheduled before April 15. Like you most of my clients want to see this clearing the bank well before April 15. Seems to be a problem here, I am on hold with Lacerte to see if they have any information on this issue. Thank you for your reply. It takes a village ! 

Level 4
February 19, 2020

I just got off the phone with telephone support at Lacerte. They are investigating this issue and needing input from the community as to details, various banks, credit unions etc. Where payments actually taken out (they are trying to determine if the issue is within Lacerte or if the issue is communication between Trea and Lacerte. Any additional information the community can supply to Lacerte will help programs identify and resolve the issue quicker. Thank all for input to Lacerte. Thank you. 

Level 2
February 20, 2020

We recevied the same thing. I called support and they said it is a defect in the program and it would be fixed in an update. That was over a week ago.

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
February 20, 2020

Are the payments actually being accepted/scheduled though, and the message is false?  or are they truly not accepted ?

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Ursula23Answer
Level 2
February 20, 2020

Support told me they checked in their e-file system and saw no rejection or message from the IRS on the client I called about. They said all bank info was sent to the IRS. The message makes no sense as the IRS would not attempt to withdraw tax until the scheduled date. Hopefully they will fix it soon.

Level 4
February 22, 2020

anyone filed a return to see if this has been "fixed" in the last two updates that were received? 

cannot locate from Lacerte that it has been corrected. Sitting here waiting to file returns. Thanks for input.

Level 2
February 24, 2020

Yes it has been fixed. I filed a return and the language on the e-file acceptance letter is back to normal indicating the amount will be withdrawn on the specified date. It did not update the letter for any previously filed returns.

Level 3
February 26, 2020

The problem is not fixed.  Two returns were not approved for 1040 electronic payment today. Hope Lacerte can fix this soon.  Yesterday's returns had no problems.

Level 3
February 27, 2020

Just got off the phone with Lacerte.  It is their problem and it has been fixed with the 2/25/20 update.  Please update your programs. 

Level 4
February 27, 2020

Great news!! Thank you for letting me know

Level 3
March 4, 2020

Oddly, I had the same issue on a client on Feb 24, 2020.  In that case the letter said the IRS rejected the payment.  Made no sense.  I just now reprinted the acceptance letter, out of curiousity, and it does not say the payment was rejected, but it also does not say the payment will be withdrawn from the account.  The State information does make that statement.

On a second client the same today - no confirmation that direct withdrawal will occur, just that there is an $xxx balance due.  How do we rely on this, to know the direct withdrawal/debit will occur?!?!?!

Just-Lisa-Now-
Intuit Community Champion
March 4, 2020

You can call the EFW inquiry line and find out if its actually scheduled, but they really need to get this worked out.

Call IRS e-file Payment Services 24/7 at 1-888-353-4537 to inquire about or cancel your payment, but please wait 7 to 10 days after your return was accepted before calling.
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Level 3
March 5, 2020

Why can't Lacerte get the EF Acceptance Letter correct. It's not rocket science. I thought with this week's update they would fix it but now it just states there is a balance due on the letter.