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Level 2
March 27, 2025
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Using a tax extension

  • March 27, 2025
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In reading the IRS instructions for the extension to file, Form 4868, I cannot discern some facts about the costs of not paying the full tax owed with that form, by the April 15th deadline. 

With regards to interest on the unpaid balance, it does not specify the interest rate. Is that rate known or predictable?

For the penalty on the unpaid balance, it says you will be charged 1/2 of 1% for each month or part of a month that the tax is unpaid by the regular April 15th due date. Then it says: "The maximum penalty is 25%." What do they mean by the maximum penalty is 25%? Is that the maximum monthly penalty rate, or the maximum total penalty owed? (Thus, if it was the latter, and you owed $100, the penalty would not exceed $25, regardless of the number of months.)

It is clear that the interest cost continues till the balance is paid.

Thank you very much!

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Level 15
March 27, 2025

@Rose101 wrote:

it does not specify the interest rate. Is that rate known or predictable

For the penalty on the unpaid balance, it says you will be charged 1/2 of 1% for each month 

  What do they mean by the maximum penalty is 25%?


 

Interest rate is announced and can change every quarter (see link).

At 1/2% per month, after 50 months of non-payment it will have hit the maximum 25% penalty.  In your example, $25.

Rose101Author
Level 2
March 27, 2025

Thank you so much for your reply!

I have two more related questions.

If I file the Form 4868 by April 15th and have a tax balance unpaid, do I get to avoid the late filing penalty, despite the unpaid balance?

I found a source online that says the interest cost on the unpaid balance of tax is about 3% daily, and it is compounded daily. The IRS instructions don't say anything about charging and compounding daily, which would be a very rapid increase in cost. Do they do that? If not, do they compound monthly?

The reply from this morning said to see a link for the current interest rate used by the IRS, but there was no hyperlink, please point me in the right direction to where I can find it.

Thank you so much again, I really appreciate it!

 

qbteachmt
Level 15
March 27, 2025

I googled:

IRA Quarterly interest rates

and got:

https://www.irs.gov/payments/quarterly-interest-rates

 

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BobKamman
Level 15
March 31, 2025
  • If your return is over 60 days late, the minimum penalty for failure to file is the smaller of $485 (for 2024) or 100% of the tax required to be shown on the return.
sjrcpa
Level 15
March 31, 2025

Throwing in more math.

The more I know the more I don’t know.